oh yeah, totally.. the lowriders are cool.. one of the few extra things that i actually enjoyed and wasnt annoyed by that they put in was the ability to customize cars in the shop.. on the same note i absolutely hate all the clothing, food, tatoo, and hair crap they put in.

forsure. I dig on them both but I see what your sayin. I guess im biased cause my big thing was lowriders. You'd see em pop up in the other games but San Andreas is so abundant with em I get to feeling a bit, for lack of a better word, Gangsta.

san andreas is pretty cool.. i actually just restarted it a few weeks ago, but ive been too busy to play it recently. i still think vice city is by far the best gta game ever made.. well done in every aspect. san andreas gets on my nerves sometimes because of some of the stupid shit they make you do like the dating crap and the jetpack, stuff like that. vice city was awesome because of the way it followed the storyline of scarface so well, and how detailed it was in every aspect of the 80s.. it had plenty of side games, but not too much to make 100%-ing the game seem unreasonable. i almost want to give up on 100%-ing san andreas because there is still so much stupid crap to do for it.. it doesnt seem worth it.

oh and whats your stance on san andreas

thanks for the input. the image is a rat fink caricature i dug up quickly. Designed by the hot rod artist ed "big daddy" roth.